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Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 10, 2012, 6:58pm
I've been working on some 7TV Star Trek rules for a while now, unfortunately no Borg so far (I really can't fathom how to do them) anyone got any ideas for Borgy Goodness?
Posted by: Karl@Crooked Dice, January 10, 2012, 7:46pm; Reply: 1
I want your time management software :)
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 10, 2012, 7:48pm; Reply: 2
Quoted from Karl@Crooked Dice
I want your time management software :)

Its called sitting in the Hospital with nothing to do . . . .
Posted by: shadowking1957, January 10, 2012, 7:58pm; Reply: 3
i belive the DR has actually got 3 clones  for the amount of work he does , he amazes me every time
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 10, 2012, 8:03pm; Reply: 4
Quoted from shadowking1957
i belive the DR has actually got 3 clones  for the amount of work he does , he amazes me every time

I wish I had clones, they could deal with all the crap and leave me the fun stuff
Posted by: deathjester, January 10, 2012, 8:46pm; Reply: 5
Quoted from Doctor Warlock
I've been working on some 7TV Star Trek rules for a while now, unfortunately no Borg so far (I really can't fathom how to do them) anyone got any ideas for Borgy Goodness?


Depending on if you are doing them complete 7TV compatible or as a customization you could incorporate the alien specifics as well as the zombie rules.

imagine an effect similar to when a zombie munches down on a survivor, they have the living dead and can come back as a zombie.  well when a Borg assimilates a Federation redshirt they get the borginess.

plus with Borg movement, that could be simulated as per zombie time, as in Drones all move about in predicted manner, until an event occures then its Resistance is futile!!!
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 10, 2012, 9:14pm; Reply: 6
Its not going to be 100% compatible, the Stars and Extras are more expensive for a start.

I hadn't thought of using the 7ombieTV stuff - thats excellent thanks!
Posted by: Chris Viau, January 10, 2012, 9:37pm; Reply: 7
Don't forget the Cybus Cybermen from Doctor Who.  They have "Synchronicity", which allows them all to move in the same turn.
Posted by: trynda1701, January 11, 2012, 1:25am; Reply: 8
Now this I intend to keep an eye on, we need a good simple rules set for Star Trek combat, one that reflects the scenes shown on TV, rather than what is 'realistic', if you know what I mean. Star Trek always went for drama over tactics!
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 11, 2012, 1:54am; Reply: 9
The combat mechanics will remain the same as 7TV (if it ain't broke don't fix it as twer) but there are some new Special Effects & Disadvantages.

Make It So
Mind Meld
Vulcan Nerve Pinch

Dependency (Ketracel White)


Where possible, I've kept them working the same (or similar) to existing Special Effects, but in some cases (as in the Dependency to Ketracel White) I've had to design something new that's supported by existing Disadvantages.
Posted by: Chris Viau, January 11, 2012, 2:04am; Reply: 10
Gary Seven is immune to the Vulcan Nerve Pinch...
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 11, 2012, 2:23am; Reply: 11
Quoted from Chris Viau
Gary Seven is immune to the Vulcan Nerve Pinch...

Yup, races that are immune to things have it listed in their Racial Descriptions - Like a Ferengi's immunity to Telepathy.


Posted by: trynda1701, January 11, 2012, 2:23am; Reply: 12
Well. I'm looking forward to see what you come up with. But your character stats list (if you plan on producing any) is gonna be a doozy! Should be about as long as the DWMG one!!!

Keep us posted. 8) 8) 8)
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 11, 2012, 2:34am; Reply: 13
So Far I've done -

Federation Star, Co-Star, and Extra Types
Federation 'Racial' Special Effects (I've treated each race as a Special Effect, the Ratings Cost of which is added to the Ratings Cost of the Model)
Rules for Phasers and Phaser Rifles
Star Fleet Gadget Cards

Made a start on the Alien Racial Special Effects - Klingon, Cardasian, Romulan, Ferengi, Vorta, and Jem'Hadar (plus a few more). When these are finished, I shall work on Co-Star Types - though I'm not sure whether to make them Generic - Starship Captain, Soldier etc; or Specific - Klingon Starship Captain, Ferengi Merchant Captain etc. Time is going to be a factor, though that depends how much time is spent sitting around waiting at the Hospital.

Posted by: Bewildered Badger, January 11, 2012, 12:51pm; Reply: 14
I'd have thought that the simplest thing to do would be to have generic Star and Co-star types (Starship Captain, Science Officer, Ambassador etc.), and have the racial SE separately. That way you can just pick and choose what you want.
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 11, 2012, 1:00pm; Reply: 15
Quoted from Bewildered Badger
I'd have thought that the simplest thing to do would be to have generic Star and Co-star types (Starship Captain, Science Officer, Ambassador etc.), and have the racial SE separately. That way you can just pick and choose what you want.

Thats kinda what I am doing, but the Federation Cast is different to other Casts.

But I still feel Klingons (in particular) should be specific to the Race.
Posted by: Karl@Crooked Dice, January 11, 2012, 1:24pm; Reply: 16
I'd be interested to see how that Racial SFX turn out as that's a good way to manage stuff for Fantasy and many other deviations.

Racial SFX might have a number of associated SFX .e.g. Klingon might have Rage and may ignore the Unwieldy weapon effect. But they may also have Honour Bound Disadvantage.

If you can maintain this balance across all the races, then you might want to consider reducing the number of starting Archetype SFX - just so you don't end-up with loads.

In the best D&D tradition, the ubiquitous nature of Humans means that you might want their Racial SFX to be that they simply have more SFX - or maybe gain one (or two) SFX from ANY group (excluding Racial obviously!).
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 11, 2012, 1:56pm; Reply: 17
Quoted from Karl@Crooked Dice
Racial SFX might have a number of associated SFX .e.g. Klingon might have Rage and may ignore the Unwieldy weapon effect. But they may also have Honour Bound Disadvantage.

Have you been reading my notes??? The First Ratings Number is applied to Stars and Co-Stars, the Second to Extras - Like I said everything is more expensive, but (from the game I had with Toby) seems to balance out (so far).

Klingon                                    +24 | +12 Ratings

The Klingons are a humanoid warrior species that originate from the planet Qo'noS (pronounced Kronos). One of the major powers of the galaxy, the Klingons are a proud, tradition-bound people who value honour and combat. The aggressive nature of the Klingon culture had made them an interstellar military power to be respected and feared. The most distinctive feature of Klingon anatomy (except in those individuals afflicted with the Augment Virus) was a sagittal crest, beginning on the forehead and often continuing over the skull. On average, Klingons are larger and physically stronger than Humans.

Racial Benefits: Body Armour, Fanatic, Honour Bound, Military Training, Mok'Bara Training, Rage, and +1 Str.

Mok'Bara Training:  Klingons may ignore the Unwieldy Weapon Effect when fighting with Klingon Weapons.


Quoted from Karl@Crooked Dice
If you can maintain this balance across all the races, then you might want to consider reducing the number of starting Archetype SFX - just so you don't end-up with loads.


Yup, trimmed it slightly -

Starfleet Captain

Special Effects
Basic: Leader (2), Luck (2), Starfleet Training
Additional: 3 from Combat, Knowledge, Physical, or Traits

Quoted from Karl@Crooked Dice
In the best D&D tradition, the ubiquitous nature of Humans means that you might want their Racial SFX to be that they simply have more SFX - or maybe gain one (or two) SFX from ANY group (excluding Racial obviously!).

Indeed! Humans should remain as flexible as possible.

Posted by: Karl@Crooked Dice, January 11, 2012, 2:18pm; Reply: 18
Yep - I can see where you are going.

I'd be tempted to drop Body Armour as a Klingon Racial Trait.
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 11, 2012, 2:22pm; Reply: 19
Quoted from Karl@Crooked Dice
Yep - I can see where you are going.

I'd be tempted to drop Body Armour as a Klingon Racial Trait.

That idea is "in flux" atm, if I do specific Klingon Star/Co-Star/Extra Templates, then they will have Body Armour Built in (btw I'm doing this from a DS9/Dominion War Era perspective, so all Klingons wear armour LoL) - but if I do generic Star/Co-Star/Extra Templates, the elements like Body Armour etc have to be part of the Racial Special Effect.

Like I said, work in progress - I started this when I was doing the Blakes 7 stuff first, and keep coming back to it.
Posted by: Chris Viau, January 11, 2012, 2:37pm; Reply: 20
Warf didn't wear armour, unless a specific situation arose.
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 11, 2012, 2:40pm; Reply: 21
Quoted from Chris Viau
Warf didn't wear armour, unless a specific situation arose.

Unique Character, he will have his own profile.

Klingons in the rules (and in the series) can't generally be in Star Fleet - so its not an issue.
Posted by: trynda1701, January 11, 2012, 5:06pm; Reply: 22
Quoted from Karl@Crooked Dice
Yep - I can see where you are going.

I'd be tempted to drop Body Armour as a Klingon Racial Trait.


What about instead of body armour, you try to figure in the Brak'lul organ redundancy shown in TNG. This could explain how some Klingons seemed to stay conscious, even when hit by phaser stun (the Klingon Captain Kargan in "A Matter of Honor", about Riker on the Klingon vessel "Pagh")?
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 11, 2012, 5:07pm; Reply: 23
Quoted from trynda1701
What about instead of body armour, you try to figure in the Brak'lul organ redundancy shown in TNG. This could explain how some Klingons seemed to stay conscious, even when hit by phaser stun (the Klingon Captain Kargan in "A Matter of Honor", about Riker on the Klingon vessel "Pagh")?

Excellent idea, although it means no bugger is ever going to set his Phasers to stun when facing Klingons LoL!
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 11, 2012, 5:54pm; Reply: 24
Using the Brak'ul organ redundancy is a great idea, UNFORTUNATELY that now means I really want to do individual Star/Co-Star/Extra profiles for Klingons - which will lead me to attempting the same for the other Major Races.

Posted by: Graeme@Crooked Dice, January 11, 2012, 6:13pm; Reply: 25
The Klingon organ redundancy thing (I didn't even know they had that) is best simply represented as +1 Def. Simple. Too many SE makes things too complicated.
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 11, 2012, 6:16pm; Reply: 26
The Klingon organ redundancy thing (I didn't even know they had that) is best simply represented as +1 Def. Simple. Too many SE makes things too complicated.

VERY good idea, I was thinking about various ideas about - best (and simplest) so far)
Posted by: trynda1701, January 11, 2012, 6:29pm; Reply: 27
Yes, simple is best, +1 to Def seems fair. (Sorry about that double post by the way, I deleted the duplicate)
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 11, 2012, 6:32pm; Reply: 28
Quoted from trynda1701
Yes, simple is best, +1 to Def seems fair. (Sorry about that double post by the way, I deleted the duplicate)

It happens to the best of us!

Back to it for a bit!
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 13, 2012, 4:44pm; Reply: 29
Where do I stop, I've listed 7 Federation Races - but have yet to include Betazoids, and then there are the more exotic little seen races like Caitians or Edosians (Edoans in the original Animated Series).

Then there are the non Federation Races - so far I've done Klingons, Cardassians, Romulans, Ferengi, Vorta, and Jem'Hadar - but what about Borg, Gorn, Remans, Breen, or even Kzin!

Getting there, but with everything else - I doubt its going to be finished soon LoL!
Posted by: Chris Viau, January 13, 2012, 4:49pm; Reply: 30
Stick with the most common races and leave the rare ones for episodic releases.  That way you don't need to do to much at once.
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 13, 2012, 4:53pm; Reply: 31
Quoted from Chris Viau
Stick with the most common races and leave the rare ones for episodic releases.  That way you don't need to do to much at once.

Yea, that makes sense.

I might leave the Borg out to begin with, and do a specific Borg booklet or something - I've included the Vorta and Jem'Hadar because I'm a DS9 nut LoL!
Posted by: Red Shirt 1, January 16, 2012, 11:33pm; Reply: 32
I have been mulling this over as well. I haven't got as far as you have. I have been looking at Star Trek TOS rather than TNG. I have been busy collecting various RPG rules to get some ideas! Miniatures are going to be the biggest issue I think.

I have tracked down TOS Federation, I found some Gorn and Romulans. But allas no TOS Klingons!!

I may have to scratch build them ??)

Anyone with some suggestions that don't involve sculpting them myself would be greatly appreciated!
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 16, 2012, 11:40pm; Reply: 33
I've actually stripped back my rules/profiles and am doing TOS first. Mostly because of time really, then I will do an "update" covering the Movies etc

Victory Force do Alternate Universe Federation, which with very little fannying around with make excellent TOS Klingons - my mate Tom Kiley has been doing exactly that.

Anything in form-fitting/tight jumpsuits would do fine tbh - with a little GS over the top of them.
Posted by: Overlord, January 17, 2012, 12:12am; Reply: 34
Quoted from Red Shirt 1
Miniatures are going to be the biggest issue I think.

I have tracked down TOS Federation, I found some Gorn and Romulans. But allas no TOS Klingons!!

I may have to scratch build them ??)

Anyone with some suggestions that don't involve sculpting them myself would be greatly appreciated!


You may find this link [Spock] interesting [/spock]:  http://spacevixensfrommars.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=15_17&zenid=ab2a901e1a1caa8d993438b204e7c46d

Posted by: Chris Viau, January 17, 2012, 12:56am; Reply: 35
Cool Grapes or what!
Posted by: Red Shirt 1, January 17, 2012, 1:11am; Reply: 36
Quoted from Overlord


These are the very miniatures of which I speak! for the Feds i have a dozen of so of these -- I have converted another space man to a TOS Klingon - When I get it done I shall post for critique.

http://www.matakishi.com/apps/webstore/products/show/1664578
Posted by: AlienAmbassador, January 17, 2012, 1:27am; Reply: 37
Quoted from Doctor Warlock
Anything in form-fitting/tight jumpsuits would do fine tbh - with a little GS over the top of them.


Do you mean the miniatures or the PLAYERS? I really don't want to see some of my past opponents in skin-tight Lycra, thankyouveddymuch.

Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 17, 2012, 3:59am; Reply: 38
Quoted from Red Shirt 1
These are the very miniatures of which I speak! for the Feds i have a dozen of so of these -- I have converted another space man to a TOS Klingon - When I get it done I shall post for critique.

http://www.matakishi.com/apps/webstore/products/show/1664578

I'm using the mark I's on those, every time I go to order the new ones they are out of flaming stock!
Posted by: Red Shirt 1, January 17, 2012, 11:47am; Reply: 39
I have the MK Is as well, I liked having the detatched heads but I found the arms to be a little fiddley -- Or maybe I just should put together miniatures at 2 in the morning!
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 17, 2012, 11:58am; Reply: 40
Quoted from Red Shirt 1
I have the MK Is as well, I liked having the detatched heads but I found the arms to be a little fiddley -- Or maybe I just should put together miniatures at 2 in the morning!

I'm using some as the basis for my TOS Klingons as well, basically sculpting sashes etc on them.
Posted by: Red Shirt 1, January 17, 2012, 12:38pm; Reply: 41
I have been using Mega Miniatures "Bridge Crew" as the Basis for both Klingons and the "Tracey Family" - at 1.50US each they are about half the price before shipping.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MEM-72004-Bridge-Crew-Set-miniatures-25mm-rpg-Trek-/140393822806?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b01fba56
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 18, 2012, 1:27pm; Reply: 42
Reached the point of having two playable forces - Klingons and Federation last week - but just haven't had time to test them out properly.

LUCKILY Toby and his Brother are trying them out tonight - though oddly, they will be playing with 15mm miniatures. They converted a load of Traveller miniatures YEARS ago.

I've shown the TOS stuff to a couple of people who's opinions I really value, and the response has so far been incredibly positive.

I have a few things to finish up with today and send off (real life has gotten in the way badly the last few days again) and then I plan to turn my rough hand written notes on Romulans and Gorn into nice tidy, shiney profiles.

I even did some rough notes for Kzin (Star Trek the Animated Series Episode "The Slaver Weapon") should I include them? I've included Edoans and Caitians in the Federation Profiles after all?

Right back down my Dads then down the Hospital (again).
Posted by: trynda1701, January 18, 2012, 11:18pm; Reply: 43
Quoted from Doctor Warlock
I've actually stripped back my rules/profiles and am doing TOS first. Mostly because of time really, then I will do an "update" covering the Movies etc


Good plan. Family and health first, and the hobby when you're good and ready. Your doing the TOS first idea is a sensible way to go. And I say give the Kzin a shot, it gives us  an additional enemy to worry about! :)  8)
Posted by: trynda1701, January 18, 2012, 11:25pm; Reply: 44
By the way, just looked over at the Hasslefree site after seeing their sale posting here. Is it just me, or is this an idea for a Borg figure, with a little modification?

http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=ieuan~hfs001&category=miniatures~sleiti
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 18, 2012, 11:32pm; Reply: 45
Quoted from trynda1701
By the way, just looked over at the Hasslefree site after seeing their sale posting here. Is it just me, or is this an idea for a Borg figure, with a little modification?

http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=ieuan~hfs001&category=miniatures~sleiti


Great Idea! Tear-off the organic right arm, replace it with a Failed Experiment mechanical claw - a Plastoid Head - done!
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 18, 2012, 11:35pm; Reply: 46
Quoted from trynda1701
Good plan. Family and health first, and the hobby when you're good and ready. Your doing the TOS first idea is a sensible way to go. And I say give the Kzin a shot, it gives us  an additional enemy to worry about! :)  8)

Barring a few minor things to do tomorrow, I can have at it!

Finished two TOS Klingons now - based off the Matakishi's Tea House MK I Feds, so I've sculpted them to match (big feet and all) - a Leader and a "Grunt"

Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 19, 2012, 1:21pm; Reply: 47
Right all went well with the testing of the TOS Klingons and Feds, just got a phone call from Toby.

They played three games in the end (I think from Toby's buzz on the phone because of the sheer amusement over what they were playing LoL) with it being 3-1 to the Feds, with Toby and his Brother switching sides at one point.

The feds did better for the most part, but from what I was told it was more luck than judgment - apart from the one Episode which was an Eliminate Raid where it ended up as a stupidly easy win for the Klingons (or so Toby claims, he has been known to brag).

All very cool so far!
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 19, 2012, 2:51pm; Reply: 48
I've been working on some profiles using the Crooked Dice 7TV system (also known as the Action Engine) - for 7tar Trek, originally they were going to be for the Dominion War Era, but I'm going with TOS first.

In anticipation of me catching up to the 24th Century, I present "Mister Adventure MKII" (yet ANOTHER use for the Crooked Dice Time Lift Security miniatures) -

Time Lift Security Body, the Man from 3000's head, the hand and phaser have been sculpted from scratch - then reproduced using Instant Mold. I used a mixture or milliput and greenstuff for the cast, as its less flexible than GS and not as brittle as pure milliput.



He's bigger than the Matakishi's Tea House MK I Feds I have (and the TOS Klingons I've been working on, that match the Federation miniatures in height and bulk) and when I figure a way to do convincing TOS Crew that match this in scale I will.

I think he's a big improvement on my original "Mister Adventure" personally -



Which I did in 2009.
Posted by: Steve F, January 19, 2012, 3:52pm; Reply: 49
That "Mister Adventure II" is a nifty and convincing conversion, Dr W.
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 19, 2012, 4:08pm; Reply: 50
Thanks man!

Pompous Captain and Vulcan Science Officer in the works - then more Security I think.
Posted by: Chris Viau, January 19, 2012, 7:09pm; Reply: 51
Those are coolness!
Posted by: trynda1701, January 19, 2012, 8:49pm; Reply: 52
Quoted from Doctor Warlock
Thanks man!

Pompous Captain and Vulcan Science Officer in the works - then more Security I think.


Shouldn't that be Smug Vulcan Science Officer? And is there no love for a Irascible Medical Officer? :) After all, who pronuounces casualties to the captain?
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 19, 2012, 8:54pm; Reply: 53
Im going for a Captain Edward Jellico sort of a feel with the Captain, aren't all Vulcans smug LoL!

The Doctors going to be more of a young impressionable type  ;)
Posted by: Ainsty Castings, January 19, 2012, 11:35pm; Reply: 54
Quoted from trynda1701
By the way, just looked over at the Hasslefree site after seeing their sale posting here. Is it just me, or is this an idea for a Borg figure, with a little modification?

http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=ieuan~hfs001&category=miniatures~sleiti


Absolutely see where your coming from with that one, however he is a bit too organic as he is and really needs a haircut.
Posted by: trynda1701, January 20, 2012, 1:10am; Reply: 55
Definitely, but as Doctor Warlock says at the top of the page, replace the arm and head, and it could do.
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 20, 2012, 5:37pm; Reply: 56
A bit more about it (and the Logo) -

http://pulp-planet.blogspot.com/2012/01/7tar-trek.html
Posted by: Karl@Crooked Dice, January 20, 2012, 5:46pm; Reply: 57
Nice conversion Drew!
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 20, 2012, 5:47pm; Reply: 58
Quoted from Karl@Crooked Dice
Nice conversion Drew!

Cheers, Im looking to do more when I get time - Im knee deep in Apes atm LoL
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 21, 2012, 7:09pm; Reply: 59
More 7tar Trek Ramblings . . . .

http://pulp-planet.blogspot.com/2012/01/7tar-trek-ii.html

For those on here who are interested, I've finished fleshing out the Romulans now - so a game is afoot!

I've also started work on the first of the Scenarios "Battle on the Edge of Forever" set somewhere between "City on the Edge of Forever" and the New Voyages Episode "In Harms Way" - The Klingon Empire is attempting to discover the Secrets of the Guardian of Forever, and our Brave Federation lads are out to stop them.

I would LOVE some Scenario Submissions - all I ask is you have a working knowledge of the 7TV Rules/Action Engine and a good Working Knowledge of Classic Star Trek - The plan is to have three or four "specific" scenarios, that are either (kinda) sequels using elements from established stories - to give everything the "full flavour" of Star Trek TOS.

BTW in trying everything out, we've found the Location Manager from the 7TV Rulebook is BRILLIANT for 7tar Trek too!
Posted by: Chris Viau, January 21, 2012, 7:12pm; Reply: 60
I just remembered Wayne Peters had customize Star Trek paper minis, but I can't find then now or I'd have posted a link. :(
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 21, 2012, 7:15pm; Reply: 61
I want to include as many linkys to stuff like that, like the 1:50th scale Paper Bridge model etc
Posted by: Booboo, January 21, 2012, 7:44pm; Reply: 62
Quoted from Doctor Warlock
I would LOVE some Scenario Submissions - all I ask is you have a working knowledge of the 7TV Rules/Action Engine and a good Working Knowledge of Classic Star Trek - The plan is to have three or four "specific" scenarios, that are either (kinda) sequels using elements from established stories - to give everything the "full flavour" of Star Trek TOS.


Probably only stating the obvious ones, which you likely already thought of, but just in case, some rough ideas thinking of the more iconic episodes....

An arena mission, unarmed crew and captain against the Gorn.... errr against the not-Gorn, excuse me.

Tribble round-up, markers multiply, randomly deviated 1d6 inches from the last one.  Kill or catch em all to stop em.

Reclaim the Engine-room/Command Deck/Janitors closet/whatever from the invading boarding party.

Investigate the sleeper ship.  Crew is on a derelict ship, with load of cryo tubes.  They act as zombie (?) spawn markers.

Mirror universe  - the good guys and bad guys have the exact same profiles, except bearded. Have to do something with each others "teleporter" to remove them. Winner takes the ship.

Kirk vrs the Amazon planet.  Save Kirk from a future harassment lawsuit.

Predator and Prey - the away team is confronted with a silcone based life form  which can hide, gives the a real sniper, hit and run profile.pick them off one at a time.
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 21, 2012, 8:00pm; Reply: 63
All Great, but I need full Scenarios - I'm not short of ideas!

I don't really want to "cross pollinate" just yet, especially considering the only Silicon Based Life-Forms in TOS were the Horta ("The Devil in the Dark") and Yarnek (the Excalbiun from "The Savage Curtain") - neither of which were particularly fast or "predatory".

I've another in mind "The Return of Squire Trelane"  ;)

Posted by: Chris Viau, January 21, 2012, 9:08pm; Reply: 64
Give me a couple of days, my daughter goes back to school on Monday and star Trek plays on Space Mon.-Fri.
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 22, 2012, 5:45pm; Reply: 65
We did something a little different this afternoon, Romulans vs. Klingons - it was a hoot!
Posted by: Booboo, January 22, 2012, 8:24pm; Reply: 66
Quoted from Chris Viau
I just remembered Wayne Peters had customize Star Trek paper minis, but I can't find then now or I'd have posted a link. :(


You might be thinking of these klingons.

http://scarecrovv.deviantart.com/gallery/23699296#/dy9scy
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 22, 2012, 8:31pm; Reply: 67
It was here - http://www.crowstuff.co.uk/trekminis/index.htm

But its "page not found" now  :(
Posted by: trynda1701, January 22, 2012, 9:15pm; Reply: 68
Don't you just hate when that happens?

By the way, for scenario ideas, would you consider any lifted from any of the MANY Trek novels? Or is that source a no no?
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 22, 2012, 10:41pm; Reply: 69
Quoted from trynda1701
Don't you just hate when that happens?

Frustrating at best!

Quoted from trynda1701
By the way, for scenario ideas, would you consider any lifted from any of the MANY Trek novels? Or is that source a no no?

No, thats fine mate - brilliant in fact!

Just give credit to the inspiration in case someone fancies reading the story!!

Posted by: Red Shirt 1, January 23, 2012, 12:12am; Reply: 70
I was on the site just last week!! I hope it's only temporary! converted 4 more TOS Klingons today!
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 23, 2012, 12:14am; Reply: 71
Quoted from Red Shirt 1
I was on the site just last week!! I hope it's only temporary! converted 4 more TOS Klingons today!

What are you using as your basis for the Conversions?
Posted by: Red Shirt 1, January 23, 2012, 12:46am; Reply: 72
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?VISuperSize&item=140393822806

They are also the basis of the Tracey's fromIR - Scott,Virgil,gordon and John so far!
Posted by: trynda1701, January 23, 2012, 1:22am; Reply: 73
Quoted from Red Shirt 1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?VISuperSize&item=140393822806

They are also the basis of the Tracey's fromIR - Scott,Virgil,gordon and John so far!


All I'm getting from your link is a blank page, Red Shirt 1.

Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 23, 2012, 1:39am; Reply: 74
Its the Mega Miniatures "Bridge Crew" - Ebay Item - 140393822806

They are VERY flexible (almost as much so as the Crooked Dice Time Lift Security Miniatures  ;D )
Posted by: trynda1701, January 23, 2012, 1:41am; Reply: 75
Ah, seen them before. Should have actually read the link! lol Thanks anyway, Drew.

Mark
Posted by: Red Shirt 1, January 23, 2012, 1:54am; Reply: 76
I seem to have touble pasting links and Pictures :-/ I too late to fiddle with that tonight!!
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 23, 2012, 2:00am; Reply: 77
S'ok guys, these things happen - I'm toying with buying more Time Lift Security, converting them, and sculpting Phaser Pistols. When I've finished with the Matakishi's Tea House ones.
Posted by: trynda1701, January 23, 2012, 2:10am; Reply: 78
Quoted from Red Shirt 1
I seem to have touble pasting links and Pictures :-/ I too late to fiddle with that tonight!!


Yeah, don't worry about it, no problem.
Posted by: Red Shirt 1, January 23, 2012, 6:31pm; Reply: 79
Quoted from Doctor Warlock
S'ok guys, these things happen - I'm toying with buying more Time Lift Security, converting them, and sculpting Phaser Pistols. When I've finished with the Matakishi's Tea House ones.


Do you happen to know if The 1st set of Starship Crew from Matakishi are still available? I liked the head options.
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 23, 2012, 6:38pm; Reply: 80
Quoted from Red Shirt 1
Do you happen to know if The 1st set of Starship Crew from Matakishi are still available? I liked the head options.

No, they aren't  :( I wish I had bought more!

I would like some of the Mark II's IF EVER they were in stock at some point!

Posted by: Red Shirt 1, January 23, 2012, 6:42pm; Reply: 81
I just sent a message to the Tea House inquiring, I really want some of the heads to do a swap. I thinks some Andorians and more Vulcans would be fun!
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 23, 2012, 7:12pm; Reply: 82
Quoted from Red Shirt 1
I just sent a message to the Tea House inquiring, I really want some of the heads to do a swap. I thinks some Andorians and more Vulcans would be fun!

Some of mine were WOEFULLY miscast, I think that was a contributory factor in stopping them (because lets face it even with new ones they are gonna sell).

I just hope he gets SOMETHING back in stock soon!
Posted by: tremblsic, January 25, 2012, 10:13pm; Reply: 83
Wayne Peters Star Trek minis,

When a site disappears on you like this, hit the Internet Wayback machine, http://www.archive.org/web/web.php paste the URL and hit take me back!

Pick a date and you'll end up here "http://web.archive.org/web/20101204215214/http://www.crowstuff.co.uk/trekminis/index.htm"

On IE 5+, the site will work like it was supposed to.

"http://web.archive.org/web/20101205023627/http://www.crowstuff.co.uk/trekminis/ent_male.htm"

You can also get his Traveller, Stargate and Dr Who minis like that

"http://web.archive.org/web/20101204204708/http://www.crowstuff.co.uk/"

Most of the stuff you can find using archive.org is still copyrighted, so it's probably not OK to repost it elsewhere, but I grab things like that only for my personal use.

Have fun

Simon
Posted by: Karl@Crooked Dice, January 25, 2012, 10:19pm; Reply: 84
Wayne produced the Battle for Canary Wharf terrain, The Menagerie card stock stuff and is currently working on some 3D vehicle cutaways for On Location.

He's a very talented bloke. I can ask him if he still has this stuff (from memory it was cracking!) and would be willing to share it again.
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 25, 2012, 10:21pm; Reply: 85
Quoted from Karl@Crooked Dice
Wayne produced the Battle for Canary Wharf terrain, The Menagerie card stock stuff and is currently working on some 3D vehicle cutaways for On Location.

He's a very talented bloke. I can ask him if he still has this stuff (from memory it was cracking!) and would be willing to share it again.


Great Idea!
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, January 25, 2012, 10:22pm; Reply: 86
Quoted from tremblsic
Wayne Peters Star Trek minis,

When a site disappears on you like this, hit the Internet Wayback machine, http://www.archive.org/web/web.php paste the URL and hit take me back!

Pick a date and you'll end up here "http://web.archive.org/web/20101204215214/http://www.crowstuff.co.uk/trekminis/index.htm"

On IE 5+, the site will work like it was supposed to.

"http://web.archive.org/web/20101205023627/http://www.crowstuff.co.uk/trekminis/ent_male.htm"

You can also get his Traveller, Stargate and Dr Who minis like that

"http://web.archive.org/web/20101204204708/http://www.crowstuff.co.uk/"

Most of the stuff you can find using archive.org is still copyrighted, so it's probably not OK to repost it elsewhere, but I grab things like that only for my personal use.

Have fun

Simon


Excellent! Marvelous in Fact!

Posted by: Molotov, January 28, 2012, 11:16am; Reply: 87
Whenever I post on this forum, it seems to do with Star Trek - very keen to see anything from this project!
Posted by: deathjester, February 11, 2012, 2:25am; Reply: 88
DW been working on 2 scenarios for you. Should have them finalized next week. One set in Dominion War era and one in TNG era. Both adaptable to TOS or any other time with any different forces.

Do you want them by email and if poss can I have the rough profiles for Romulan Klingon Federation Vorta Cardassian and Jem H'dar to play test please.
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, February 11, 2012, 2:46am; Reply: 89
As I pointed out earlier in the thread, its pretty much driving forward as TOS initially -

TOS Romulan, Klingon, & Federation are pretty much done.

"Modern" Romulan, Klingon, Federation, Vorta, Cardassian, and Jem H'dar - are only as far as the Racial SFX - as I haven't decided whether to go for actual distinct Star/Co-Star/Extra Profiles for each race yet, or have 'generic' non-federation 'Captain, 1st Officer, Engineers' etc

In the RPG notes I wrote early last year, everything was done as a separate entity - but as a skirmish game that's going to be a LOT of pages to read and remember to just play/create casts properly!

For the "modern" 7tar Trek I have the following Alien Racial Special Effects - Klingon, Cardassian, Romulan, Vorta, Jem'Hadar, and Ferengi.

Then for the Federation I have the following Starfleet Stars and Co-Stars - Captain, Science Officer (which covers both Science and Medical), Engineering Officer, Helm Officer, and Security Officer. Each Officer type can be improved to become Department Chief and/or the First Officer. Then for Starfleet Extras I have - Security Guard, Junior Science Officer, Junior Medical Officer, and Junior Engineering Officer.

Federation Racial Special Effects - Human, Vulcan, Tellarite, Andorian, Bajoran, Bolian, and Joined Trill (I want to add Betazoids too).

The TOS 7tar Trek is much further along, I'd be happy to have you look at the Federation and Klingon stuff now (providing you don't start sharing it around too much LoL).
Posted by: deathjester, February 11, 2012, 2:54am; Reply: 90
That would be great. My mate who is going to be my opponent for scenario testing is a huge Trekkie but not really a wargamer so your profiles are safe  ;)
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, February 11, 2012, 3:02am; Reply: 91
Sorry to be so "clingy" but its my Baby LoL!

Email me at century.thirty.one@gmail.com and I'll send them by return!
Posted by: deathjester, February 11, 2012, 3:16am; Reply: 92
Cheers. Will email once scenarios are finalized and you can see if they are suitable. See you At Waylands on the 18th.
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, February 11, 2012, 3:23am; Reply: 93
If I make it I shall bring some 7tar Trek mini's to show you!
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, February 11, 2012, 3:24am; Reply: 94
Quoted from deathjester
Cheers. Will email once scenarios are finalized and you can see if they are suitable. See you At Waylands on the 18th.

I thought you wanted the Profiles LoL!
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, February 16, 2012, 3:59pm; Reply: 95
Everything is progressing, Toby and his Brother are now Playtesting the Romulans.

Deathjester and Redshirt 1 are writing Scenarios too!

I'm now copying over the Orion Notes from the "Notebook of Doom" and correcting any silly mistakes at the same time.
Posted by: deathjester, February 16, 2012, 4:04pm; Reply: 96
Hope you got my Mudds Women scenario, quite like that one if I do say so myself.
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, February 16, 2012, 4:08pm; Reply: 97
Quoted from deathjester
Hope you got my Mudds Women scenario, quite like that one if I do say so myself.

Yep, only had a quick scan so far - busy day today.
Posted by: Graeme@Crooked Dice, February 16, 2012, 4:38pm; Reply: 98
Like the idea of keeping it TOS to begin with. Hopefully Kirk can talk computers into self destructing…
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, February 16, 2012, 4:40pm; Reply: 99
Like the idea of keeping it TOS to begin with. Hopefully Kirk can talk computers into self destructing…

It just made sense IMHO.

Him and Number Six both LoL!
Posted by: trynda1701, February 16, 2012, 6:49pm; Reply: 100
Quoted from Doctor Warlock

It just made sense IMHO.

Him and Number Six both LoL!


Plus, didn't even Space:1999 nearly have such an episode, the one with Bernard Cribbins in it? ;)
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, February 16, 2012, 6:58pm; Reply: 101
Quoted from trynda1701
Plus, didn't even Space:1999 nearly have such an episode, the one with Bernard Cribbins in it? ;)

Noooooooooooooooo, not Brian the Brain!



Posted by: Chris Viau, February 22, 2012, 4:57pm; Reply: 102
Not sure of the scale, but super cool none the less http://jleslie48.com/stbb/rel.html
Posted by: Doctor Warlock, February 22, 2012, 5:18pm; Reply: 103
Quoted from Chris Viau
Not sure of the scale, but super cool none the less http://jleslie48.com/stbb/rel.html

Things like that are easily scalable up or down.
Posted by: Rick, March 6, 2012, 4:38pm; Reply: 104
Love this thread! I've got some of Matakishi's Mk 2 TOS as well as the old 1st corps ones - in addition I've been working on some TNG ones from the Victory Force range (Victory Force and Space Vixens are similiar in size, but matakishi's and 1st corps are smaller). I think I'll have to take some piccies at some point.
Posted by: Brummie, March 7, 2012, 11:14am; Reply: 105
I saw some clix like Trek figures on a blog somewhere but Can't remember where now. Can't seem to find any on evilbay so perhaps i imagined it
Posted by: Chris Viau, March 7, 2012, 11:33am; Reply: 106
If you search Star Trek Expeditions you'll find them.  They are characters from the latest movie version.  I think it's Kirk, Spook, Uhuru and McCoy.  There's also an expansion with Sulu, Scotty and (I think) Pike.
Posted by: SteT, March 7, 2012, 11:37am; Reply: 107
Nope. There are some but they're in a co-operative boardgame called Star Trek Expeditions (as Cris says).

They're based on the last movie and you get  Kirk, Spock, McCoy and Uhuru plus 2 ships (Enterprise and Klingon Cruiser).

Unfortunately the game is not cheap (and I've heard it's not brilliant either) so if all you want is the four character figures you end up paying upwards of £7.50 a figure (based on the cheapest I've seen a game on EBay for).

You can now get an expansion pack for around £15 and this has checkov, scotty and sulu in it.

Here's a couple of ebay listings that have pictures of the figures (this is not a recommendation to purchase - not at these prices anyway!)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Trek-Expeditions-Board-Game-/400281636276?pt=UK_Toys_Games_Games&hash=item5d32a50db4

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Trek-Expeditions-Expansion-Set-Brand-New-its-original-Packaging-/300673750898?pt=AU_Miniatures&hash=item46018d5772

Posted by: Brummie, March 7, 2012, 11:43am; Reply: 108
Ahh cool. I searched for star trek clix and just got hits on the ships. If they where a few quid perhaps I would of invested. They are the figures I saw on the blog though cheers
Posted by: SteT, March 12, 2012, 5:53pm; Reply: 109
OOh. Just got excited for a moment as I found 33 Citadel Star Trek miniatures most still in their original bags including Kirk,Spock,Mckoy (2 versions each) Sulu&Chekov and Uhuru&Nurse Chapel plus others.

Unfortunately, I'd need a small mortgage to get them. :-/

They're on for approximately £190 with around £35 for postage. I say approximately because they're from the US which means you'd have to pay VAT and Duty as well.

Hey, he's taking offers though....  :B ......but not from me. (Possibly a future addition to the OOh I could kick meself thread).
Posted by: Rick, March 12, 2012, 10:36pm; Reply: 110
SteT - if it's any consolation, I managed to pick up the 2 generic starfleet security types from this range a few years ago and the figures are tiny - probably 'true' 25mm's. You'd never get another sci-fi range to fit in with them these days - best to try to get some of the 'matakishi mk 2' figures unless you just want a 'display only range'.
Posted by: SteT, March 12, 2012, 10:42pm; Reply: 111
Honestly if I decide to do them I might go for Victory forces Spacefarers for the federation and match them against Space Vixen from Mars' not Klingons, jem'adar, vulcan/romulan, ferengi, gorn, etc. ;)
Posted by: Rick, March 12, 2012, 11:26pm; Reply: 112
Quoted from SteT
Honestly if I decide to do them I might go for Victory forces Spacefarers for the federation and match them against Space Vixen from Mars' not Klingons, jem'adar, vulcan/romulan, ferengi, gorn, etc. ;)


Thats what I've done with 'em - Victory Force make good TNG/DS9 figures!
Posted by: deathjester, March 13, 2012, 8:33am; Reply: 113
Same here. Just watch how many Victory Force you order or you might get stiffed by frikkin customs. Do I sound bitter!!! Anyway if you file down the shoulder padding they make ideal TOS Starfleet as well.
Posted by: SteT, March 13, 2012, 9:32am; Reply: 114
Yep it can be a real pain with customs.

They count the postage and insurance in with the value of the goods when determining if any money is due. Why?

Duty isn't that bad as the allowance is about £135 before you have to worry about it.

The thing that kills you is the VAT. They only allow the value of goods up to £15, any more and you have to figure in the VAT (usually an extra 20% for models)  on the price of your goods.

:-/

Your best bet to avoid problems is to see if there is an EU distributor and then purchase from them. No duty and they usually have reciprocal VAT agreements in place so you don't get stung with that either.

Unfortunately Victory force don't have one, believe me I checked. :B

Given that Victory Forces international shipping rate starts at $17.50 about £12 you're not likely to get many figures in before you hit the £15 limit. So avoiding VAT is pretty much an impossibility with this company.

My best advice to anyone wanting to order from them is to keep a look-out on their blog/facebook for special offers and join the Yahoo-Group as according to their website group members get 12% off orders (though I'd double check before ordering if I were you). ;)

Does all this make me look a bit paranoid about buying from abroad. I must admit I've only bought the odd Star Wars or Heroclix figure from the US to date.

It makes me laugh sometimes when it's actually cheaper to import the odd figure than to buy it in this country (particularly when it's the postal cost in the UK that's making it cheaper).
Posted by: Chris Viau, March 31, 2012, 1:31pm; Reply: 115
Just came across this, some Star Trek paper minis that some may find useful http://www.4shared.com/file/218644570/e06740c9/landingparty.html
Posted by: Chris Viau, March 31, 2012, 1:39pm; Reply: 116
Klingons http://www.4shared.com/file/218644570/e06740c9/landingparty.html

Romulans http://www.4shared.com/file/228544867/67db0235/romulans.html?

Beasties http://www.4shared.com/document/G9BPXz7w/aliens1.html

Gilligan's Island http://www.4shared.com/file/222308120/5f7dcc36/gilligansisland.html?
Posted by: Red Shirt 1, April 18, 2012, 1:00am; Reply: 117
A new offering from Matakishi

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